Endgame Beyerdynamic DT770 / DT880 / DT990 (Endgame) / Pro 250 Ohm

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The Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro 250 Ohm are truly an endgame headphone. It is enjoyed by so many studio professionals, gamers, and music enjoyers. It's bright, clear, sparkly, diffuse field level treble is perfect for critical listening applications. It's ultra smooth V-Shaped response gives insanely transparent audio quality that translates and images extremely similarly to high quality studio monitors.
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Check out THIS DIY Tutorial on how to dampen brand new DT990.
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Don't let the haters lie saying they only measure this good when they look like this (actual picture they use claiming it's what was measured with worn earpads):
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One of the largest complaints about the Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro 250 Ohm is that the treble is harsh and fatiguing. This is only true for the first few months while the earpads are not compressed yet to dampen the highs. The pain is worth the wait as you will not find a smoother more sparkly treble anywhere else!
Enjoy some additional guides:
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Besides lacking a little sub bass due to their openback design, they are practically flawless for music enjoyment. They have an extremely dynamic, fun, exciting, V-Shaped sound. Whatever you want to call it. Plenty of other headphones and IEMs try to get this sound so you are not alone!:
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Do not be fooled by people using biased measuring rigs that either roll off or scoop out the treble. This makes the DT990 look heavily exaggerated and treble boosted when in reality the treble is neutral to diffuse field, if not a little sparklier. Diffuse field treble is best for critical listening applications. Veiled treble or dampened treble is not:
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The above graphs are delusional people Glamorizing dark and veiled gear like the Sennheiser HD 650 or Harman Target.

We can see here on crin graph that it fits within preference bounds in treble
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You can get replacement parts for this headphone: EDT 990 V And Headband Cushion
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Now, you may be wondering about the Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 250 Ohm and DT880 Pro 250 Ohm:
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Both of these headphones measure significantly worse than the Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro 250 Ohm with worn earpads.
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As you can see there are either holes in the bass or it's bloated. There's peaks and cuts in the highs. None of this really improves with earpad wear. When I first got into headphones, the DT880 Pro 250 Ohm were flaunted as the big brain smart boi choice of the three. Later I came to find out it's actually trash. Have some additional guides:
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The headphone below is called the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Premium Edition and does not sound like the DT990 Pro version. DT 990 Premium Edition comes with larger ear cups giving an enhanced roomlike effect within the ear cups themselves. This extra space between your head and the driver introduces more reflections and more coloration. DT990 Pro ear cup housing is small and more isolated reducing reflections and improving tonality at the expense of a roomlike effect. DT990 Pro just sounds more transparent with a smoother less lumpy response. Currently don't have measurements ready but upper mids and treble sound lumpier on DT 990 Premium Edition. I feel this needs to be said because a lot of people buy DT 990 Premium Edition and claim they have a pair of DT990's which is the wrong version. Not the same.
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Some more info on different Ohm versions. Yes 80 Ohm did sound darker in the treble and had stronger bass from my experience. Some people said all ohm versions sound the same. They don't.
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I highly recommend buying them used with already worn ear pads!

Cause honestly it takes many months before the pads compress, so you will have to deal with these extremely harsh treble spikes for a long time. And you may struggle to even use them for that long because you can't stand the harshness.
 
Just some random people's DT990 measurements...
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Measurement of DT990 250Ω with extremely worn pads on GRAS 45CA

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Below is pictured, the headphones with the measured pads.


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@Sebastian B how do your DT990's compare without EQ vs with PEQdB?
Hey, you're unbanned! I’m just now seeing this since I didn’t get a notification for some reason, but I really liked the changes PEQdB made to the Beyerdynamic DT 990s. It gave a massive boost to the sub-bass and scooped out the low mids a bit. Even according to the HiFiASMR endgame target, these are the exact issues with them (lacking sub-bass and exaggerated low mids). They still sound really good without the EQ, but with it, I really wish they had that sub-bass. It makes such a massive difference and would make mixing so much easier, especially since dialing in speakers with a subwoofer is so finicky and a bit of a chore.
 
Here's my first attempt at PEQdB. Aside from subbass, I'm starting to think that it sounds better than harman to me, lol
 

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I should mention, as a music producer/audio engineer, I don’t use third-party software or gear to tune my headphones or IEMs. I need to accurately predict how my mixes will translate across different systems, and constantly altering their tonalities with EQ would make mixing decisions far too unpredictable. I’m excited about PEQdB not because of the potential for new headphone correction software, but because of the new headphone that will come from it. Sharur, have you decided on a driver type yet? I’d recommend planar magnetic... 😁
 
Dude, holy shit. I never liked much bass, much soundstage scoop, or treble at all. This is the best target curve I have ever heard
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Dude, holy shit. I never liked much bass, much soundstage scoop, or treble at all. This is the best target curve I have ever heard
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you updated it again you retard
 
dude this target sounds like i am in a reference movie theater. it's fucking incredible. i am losing my mind
 
dude this is insane
Hey, I just tried the A/B test mode and noticed a couple of things. First, while it’s not a major issue, I feel like I shouldn’t have to pause one track and then press play on the other. It would be much more intuitive if pressing play on one track automatically paused the other. This is more of a user experience suggestion, so it’s not a huge deal.

More importantly, I set the number of trials to 99, but the first twenty trials sounded nearly identical, so I ended up selecting "no preference" for all of them. I didn’t complete the remaining 79 trials because of this. It seems like the difference between the two samples needs to be much more noticeable for the test to be effective.
 
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