Endgame Beyerdynamic DT770 / DT880 / DT990 (Endgame) / Pro 250 Ohm

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The Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro 250 Ohm are truly an endgame headphone. It is enjoyed by so many studio professionals, gamers, and music enjoyers. It's bright, clear, sparkly, diffuse field level treble is perfect for critical listening applications. It's ultra smooth V-Shaped response gives insanely transparent audio quality that translates and images extremely similarly to high quality studio monitors.
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Check out THIS DIY Tutorial on how to dampen brand new DT990.
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Don't let the haters lie saying they only measure this good when they look like this (actual picture they use claiming it's what was measured with worn earpads):
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One of the largest complaints about the Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro 250 Ohm is that the treble is harsh and fatiguing. This is only true for the first few months while the earpads are not compressed yet to dampen the highs. The pain is worth the wait as you will not find a smoother more sparkly treble anywhere else!
Enjoy some additional guides:
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Besides lacking a little sub bass due to their openback design, they are practically flawless for music enjoyment. They have an extremely dynamic, fun, exciting, V-Shaped sound. Whatever you want to call it. Plenty of other headphones and IEMs try to get this sound so you are not alone!:
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Do not be fooled by people using biased measuring rigs that either roll off or scoop out the treble. This makes the DT990 look heavily exaggerated and treble boosted when in reality the treble is neutral to diffuse field, if not a little sparklier. Diffuse field treble is best for critical listening applications. Veiled treble or dampened treble is not:
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The above graphs are delusional people Glamorizing dark and veiled gear like the Sennheiser HD 650 or Harmen Target.

We can see here on crin graph that it fits within preference bounds in treble
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You can get replacement parts for this headphone: EDT 990 V And Headband Cushion
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Now, you may be wondering about the Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 250 Ohm and DT880 Pro 250 Ohm:
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Both of these headphones measure significantly worse than the Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro 250 Ohm with worn earpads.
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As you can see there are either holes in the bass or it's bloated. There's peaks and cuts in the highs. None of this really improves with earpad wear. When I first got into headphones, the DT880 Pro 250 Ohm were flaunted as the big brain smart boi choice of the three. Later I came to find out it's actually trash. Have some additional guides:
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The headphone below is called the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Premium Edition and does not sound like the DT990 Pro version. DT 990 Premium Edition comes with larger ear cups giving an enhanced roomlike effect within the ear cups themselves. This extra space between your head and the driver introduces more reflections and more coloration. DT990 Pro ear cup housing is small and more isolated reducing reflections and improving tonality at the expense of a roomlike effect. DT990 Pro just sounds more transparent with a smoother less lumpy response. Currently don't have measurements ready but upper mids and treble sound lumpier on DT 990 Premium Edition. I feel this needs to be said because a lot of people buy DT 990 Premium Edition and claim they have a pair of DT990's which is the wrong version. Not the same.
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Some more info on different Ohm versions. Yes 80 Ohm did sound darker in the treble and had stronger bass from my experience. Some people said all ohm versions sound the same. They don't.
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Impressive !
 
The treble on these is unbelievably bad, even after five months. Not only are the peaks bad, but the dips are just as horrendous. No amount of EQ can fix these. I can see why people use OTL tube amps with them—it probably introduces enough distortion in the treble region dampen the peaks and fill in the dips to smooth out the response. I think I'll buy an OTL tube amp and see how these sound with these.
 
Sebastian B said:
The treble on these is unbelievably bad, even after five months. Not only are the peaks bad, but the dips are just as horrendous. No amount of EQ can fix these. I can see why people use OTL tube amps with them—it probably introduces enough distortion in the treble region dampen the peaks and fill in the dips to smooth out the response. I think I'll buy an OTL tube amp and see how these sound with these.
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Hi Seb. How's life?

On one hand you say ***** target sounds good, the other hand you said dt990 pros are trash but they are quite similar in freq response. Which part of the treble is bad may I ask?
 
Sebastian B said:
Run a tone generator through your DT 990 Pro and sweep through the treble.
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I did that a long time ago with dt990 and there were some random tiny holes that would appear randomly on left or right side. Did that again not that long ago and they were smooth. I don't know if it was same pair of dt990 tho I have 4 pairs lol.
 
HiFiASMR said:
I did that a long time ago with dt990 and there were some random tiny holes that would appear randomly on left or right side. Did that again not that long ago and they were smooth. I don't know if it was same pair of dt990 tho I have 4 pairs lol.
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It could be unit variation. To your credit, the EM6Ls don’t have this issue. The Truthear Novas with foam tips are also quite smooth.
 
HiFiASMR said:
hype2 > prestige
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Could you take one for the team and buy all the IEMs from Thieaudio to compare and contrast them? Lol. I think I’m done with sub-$500 IEMs—I'm looking at something closer to the $1000 range for the technical performance. I’m tired of listening to music in 480p; I want 8K resolution.
 
worn out earpads, some eq makes them mint for computing and occasional listening
 
gibxox said:
worn out earpads, some eq makes them mint for computing and occasional listening
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I'm selling mine. There's no way to EQ the treble, at least not on my unit, and the distortion is atrocious. Harmonic masking is only apparent at higher levels, and it is simply incapable of producing high levels without massive distortion, especially if you boost the sub bass. For what I use it for—producing, mixing, and mastering—it's virtually useless.
 
Sebastian B said:
I'm selling mine. There's no way to EQ the treble, at least not on my unit, and the distortion is atrocious. Harmonic masking is only apparent at higher levels, and it is simply incapable of producing high levels without massive distortion, especially if you boost the sub bass. For what I use it for—producing, mixing, and mastering—it's virtually useless.
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Delusional ****** fan.
 
HiFiASMR said:
You just parrot what other people say.
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I owned the DT 990s for over six months. I mixed with them for about 100 hours and tested them using pink noise and sine wave sweeps. I also have a pair of Neumann KH 120 IIs, which are seen as true reference monitors by you, ******, Amir from Audio Science Review, Crinacle, and many others.

On top of that, I’ve tried many other IEMs and headphones, and I’ve been doing critical listening since around 2014. I’ve also been a classically trained pianist since I was seven.

I’m pretty sure I can come to my own conclusions.
 
Giotoyama is just another example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
 
Sebastian B said:
I owned the DT 990s for over six months. I mixed with them for about 100 hours and tested them using pink noise and sine wave sweeps. I also have a pair of Neumann KH 120 IIs, which are seen as true reference monitors by you, ******, Amir from Audio Science Review, Crinacle, and many others.

On top of that, I’ve tried many other IEMs and headphones, and I’ve been doing critical listening since around 2014. I’ve also been a classically trained pianist since I was seven.

I’m pretty sure I can come to my own conclusions.
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Hi, I am looking at the DT990, but what would you recommend instead? I cant spend too much as this would be my first audiophile grade headphone ever. Looking to spend sub $300, but ideally sub $200, because with a dac/amp the price will add up quickly, thanks!
 
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