The Science Of Soundstage

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A lot of people don't know what soundstage is so I'll make this thread for y'all to discuss. Soundstage is the perception of width. Things sounding far away in the presence region. It is desired because that is how the human ear hears things. The human ear prefers V-Shaped sound. Here is a tutorial on how to create soundstage via examples. Let's start with the legendary Sennheiser HD 800 S:
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Here is a example of the Sennheiser HD 600 having no soundstage:
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you will notice the treble is directly competing with the high mids presence region. in fact the Sennheiser treble veil combined with the presence being more prominent than the treble leads to the complete lack of soundstage. so what is soundstage? the high mids being scooped out in relation to treble emphasis. also, a bass boost can help with soundstage as a bass boost leads the proximity effect of being close to a sound source. that combined with a presence scoop adds to the soundstage. V-Shaped headphones inherently have soundstage and is how the human ear hears sound:
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The headphone show, zreviews, dms, even dankpods, audio science review, me, all know that 1 to 4khz is the presence region for vocals. Its also where the ear is most sensitive. If you scoop it out you will have soundstage in relation to the bass and treble. This adds width. Common sense. All headphones with soundstage have more treble than mids. All headphones that are midrange cannons like hd600 have no soundstage. Eq does not make a bad headphone have soundstage. The tone of the headphone is permanent.
Larger ear cup housing with drivers farther from ear also create soundstage as it creates a roomlike effect within the ear cup space however this can also lead to more coloration problems in the tonality of the headphone.​
 
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"Larger ear cup housing with drivers farther from ear also create soundstage as it creates a roomlike effect within the ear cup space however this can also lead to more coloration problems in the tonality of the headphone."

Soundstage does not have much to do with something as simple as frequency response at the eardrum. You can't get an IEM to have similar soundstage to an over-ear by matching their frequency responses.
 
"Larger ear cup housing with drivers farther from ear also create soundstage as it creates a roomlike effect within the ear cup space however this can also lead to more coloration problems in the tonality of the headphone."

Soundstage does not have much to do with something as simple as frequency response at the eardrum. You can't get an IEM to have similar soundstage to an over-ear by matching their frequency responses.
Hd600 and m50x are known for having no soundstage and they are not iems.
 
all know that 1 to 4khz is the presence region for vocals. Its also where the ear is most sensitive. If you scoop it out you will have soundstage in relation to the bass and treble.
Eq does not make a bad headphone have soundstage. The tone of the headphone is permanent.

If the scoop in the 1 to 4 kHz region achieves soundstage, then why doesn't EQing that area make a headphone have soundstage? I'm aware that the peaks and dips in the higher treble range are difficult or impossible to EQ.
 
If the scoop in the 1 to 4 kHz region achieves soundstage, then why doesn't EQing that area make a headphone have soundstage? I'm aware that the peaks and dips in the higher treble range are difficult or impossible to EQ.
yea this is where i also have problems accepting this thread
 
A lot of people don't know what soundstage is so I'll make this thread for y'all to discuss. Soundstage is the perception of width. Things sounding far away in the presence region. It is desired because that is how the human ear hears things. The human ear prefers V-Shaped sound. Here is a tutorial on how to create soundstage via examples. Let's start with the legendary Sennheiser HD 800 S:
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Here is a example of the Sennheiser HD 600 having no soundstage:
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you will notice the treble is directly competing with the high mids presence region. in fact the Sennheiser treble veil combined with the presence being more prominent than the treble leads to the complete lack of soundstage. so what is soundstage? the high mids being scooped out in relation to treble emphasis. also, a bass boost can help with soundstage as a bass boost leads the proximity effect of being close to a sound source. that combined with a presence scoop adds to the soundstage. V-Shaped headphones inherently have soundstage and is how the human ear hears sound:
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thanks for reading:
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The headphone show, zreviews, dms, even dankpods, audio science review, me, all know that 1 to 4khz is the presence region for vocals. Its also where the ear is most sensitive. If you scoop it out you will have soundstage in relation to the bass and treble. This adds width. Common sense. All headphones with soundstage have more treble than mids. All headphones that are midrange cannons like hd600 have no soundstage. Eq does not make a bad headphone have soundstage. The tone of the headphone is permanent.
Larger ear cup housing with drivers farther from ear also create soundstage as it creates a roomlike effect within the ear cup space however this can also lead to more coloration problems in the tonality of the headphone.​
hello guys!!!
 
I have some issues with this thread, but hard to pin-point...
 
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