Endgame Beyerdynamic DT770 / DT880 / DT990 (Endgame) / Pro 250 Ohm

Sebastian B said:
Honestly, they probably will.
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Gonna try them with the glasses I have. Kinda funny I basically have perfect vision. No real difference with the perscription glasses I have. The smudging on glasses is a nightmare. Glad I dont need them.
 
the added clamping force over my 560s is overly present but im sure it will resolve somewhat.
 
Ive been using these for about 3 weeks now, and I would say with confidence that there is little to no reason to recommend the sennheiser 6 series lineup in current year. You can find the dt990 for about 160 on amazon, and youre getting such an excellent value.

I do wonder, is there truly something better?
 
HiFiASMR said:
Gonna try them with the glasses I have. Kinda funny I basically have perfect vision. No real difference with the perscription glasses I have. The smudging on glasses is a nightmare. Glad I dont need them.
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Haha prescribed glasses but "perfect" vision
 
ok as a non audiophile i must admit these make for a more fun sound over my 560s even with fresh earpads
 
exmin said:
ok as a non audiophile i must admit these make for a more fun sound over my 560s even with fresh earpads
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sennheiser 500 / 600 series is all mid range. its like a speaker that just has a small woofer. no tweeter for treble and no sub woofer for bass.
 
podcasts sounds worse rn with new earpads but music is so much better
 
tho i think i prefer aphex twin on the 560s lol
 
exmin said:
tho i think i prefer aphex twin on the 560s lol
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I liked hd650 but the dull treble and shouty 5khz was just not doing it for me. Weak bass too. It had its moments but it was lifeless and just not on the same level as having clear treble.
 
The em6ls sounds better for me, I used the dt's for 2 months. Truly endgame gears.

Curious if we can find a closed back endgame over ears.
 
Looking to buy a pair, i notice there is also a Pro X whats the diff ?
 
Shtumpa said:
Looking to buy a pair, i notice there is also a Pro X whats the diff ?
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Pro x version has weaker thinner diffuse field level bass also known as analytical. 250ohm pro has balanced bass boost which people prefer. Treble quality is also worse on pro x. Pro x tries to be diffuse field. 250 ohm is diffuse field with a bass boost, more sparkly treble and cleaner treble.
 
The DT 990 Pro and DT 990 Premium use similar drivers, but they differ in acoustic design and tuning, which leads to measurable and audible differences in frequency response and spatial presentation.


The DT 990 Pro exhibits a smoother and more controlled response in the upper mids and treble, with fewer response irregularities. This makes them more predictable and transparent from a monitoring perspective, as reduced variance in these regions minimizes coloration and improves consistency. The low end is also more controlled and less dependent on acoustic interaction with the ear cup volume.
The DT 990 Premium, due to larger ear cups and a different acoustic geometry, introduce more internal reflections and spatial cues. Measured, this appears as increased variance in the upper mids and treble; psychoacoustically, however, it results in a wider perceived soundstage, increased air, and stronger spatial presentation.


I have owned and directly compared both models (DT 990 Pro 250 Ω and DT 990 Premium 250 Ω) on the same setup through direct A/B listening, and I listen to a wide range of EDM sub-genres, including trance (psy, uplifting, progressive), techno, and related styles. Across these genres—where layered synths, transients, high-frequency energy, and spatial effects are fundamental—the tuning of the DT 990 Premium often renders the intended presentation more naturally, with greater depth and separation.
Therefore, a smoother frequency response does not automatically imply superior performance for EDM genres. The DT 990 Pro prioritize technical neutrality and control, which is advantageous for monitoring, while the DT 990 Premium emphasize spatial rendering and musical presentation, which can be more suitable for electronic music listening. This reflects different design goals and applications, not overall sound quality superiority of one model over the other.



A smoother and less “lumpy” frequency response, as seen on the DT 990 Pro, indicates lower variance in the upper mids and treble, which is beneficial for monitoring and consistency. However, frequency-response smoothness alone is not a sufficient metric to determine suitability for EDM playback.
The DT 990 Premium shows greater variance in the upper mids and treble, which is consistent with differences in acoustic geometry and ear-cup volume. While this appears as irregularities in FR measurements, it also correlates with increased interaural cues and perceived soundstage width, which are not fully captured by standard FR graphs.

For EDM genres such as trance, psy-trance, techno, and house—where spatial effects, high-frequency energy, and layered transients are core elements—a tuning that introduces additional spatial cues can better reflect the intended presentation, even if it deviates from a smoother target curve.
Therefore, while the DT 990 Pro measures smoother and is more neutral from a monitoring standpoint, this does not objectively establish superior performance for EDM listening. The DT 990 Pro and DT 990 Premium represent different acoustic trade-offs, and measurement smoothness should be interpreted in the context of intended use rather than as a universal indicator of sound quality.
 
dark2030 said:
The DT 990 Pro and DT 990 Premium use similar drivers, but they differ in acoustic design and tuning, which leads to measurable and audible differences in frequency response and spatial presentation.


The DT 990 Pro exhibits a smoother and more controlled response in the upper mids and treble, with fewer response irregularities. This makes them more predictable and transparent from a monitoring perspective, as reduced variance in these regions minimizes coloration and improves consistency. The low end is also more controlled and less dependent on acoustic interaction with the ear cup volume.
The DT 990 Premium, due to larger ear cups and a different acoustic geometry, introduce more internal reflections and spatial cues. Measured, this appears as increased variance in the upper mids and treble; psychoacoustically, however, it results in a wider perceived soundstage, increased air, and stronger spatial presentation.


I have owned and directly compared both models (DT 990 Pro 250 Ω and DT 990 Premium 250 Ω) on the same setup through direct A/B listening, and I listen to a wide range of EDM sub-genres, including trance (psy, uplifting, progressive), techno, and related styles. Across these genres—where layered synths, transients, high-frequency energy, and spatial effects are fundamental—the tuning of the DT 990 Premium often renders the intended presentation more naturally, with greater depth and separation.
Therefore, a smoother frequency response does not automatically imply superior performance for EDM genres. The DT 990 Pro prioritize technical neutrality and control, which is advantageous for monitoring, while the DT 990 Premium emphasize spatial rendering and musical presentation, which can be more suitable for electronic music listening. This reflects different design goals and applications, not overall sound quality superiority of one model over the other.



A smoother and less “lumpy” frequency response, as seen on the DT 990 Pro, indicates lower variance in the upper mids and treble, which is beneficial for monitoring and consistency. However, frequency-response smoothness alone is not a sufficient metric to determine suitability for EDM playback.
The DT 990 Premium shows greater variance in the upper mids and treble, which is consistent with differences in acoustic geometry and ear-cup volume. While this appears as irregularities in FR measurements, it also correlates with increased interaural cues and perceived soundstage width, which are not fully captured by standard FR graphs.

For EDM genres such as trance, psy-trance, techno, and house—where spatial effects, high-frequency energy, and layered transients are core elements—a tuning that introduces additional spatial cues can better reflect the intended presentation, even if it deviates from a smoother target curve.
Therefore, while the DT 990 Pro measures smoother and is more neutral from a monitoring standpoint, this does not objectively establish superior performance for EDM listening. The DT 990 Pro and DT 990 Premium represent different acoustic trade-offs, and measurement smoothness should be interpreted in the context of intended use rather than as a universal indicator of sound quality.
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lovely ai
 
my point is that i have both and dt990 pro and dt990 premium and for me the dt990 premium are better in sound in edms such as trance,, psy trance and house music

in edm sound the dt990 premium is more clear against the dt990 pr0..............................
 
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